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Post by Stormrider on Jan 4, 2005 7:07:55 GMT -6
Arwen also loved Aragorn. They fell in love at first site! It was a bittersweet love in which she gave up her life as an Elf to be with him. I think that is the deepest show of support anyone could give! Only such love would be worth sacrificing your very being!
She supported him by making the banner she sent with Elrohir and Elladan to take to him when he faced the forces of Sauron and when he became King.
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Post by PaleAndFair on Jan 24, 2005 20:12:58 GMT -6
The one to give him the Greatest respect of ALL was Elrond, who was as a father to him. He gave Aragorn his blessing and his beloved daughters hand, that cost her and her father (AND her people) VARY, VARY MUCH! :'(
Jennifer.
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Post by Stormrider on Jan 25, 2005 6:57:24 GMT -6
Elrond raised Estel (meaning "Hope") which was another of Aragorn's names. He was the last of Elrond's brother, Elros', line and that was very important to Elrond, I imagine. He raised Estel as if he were his own son.
However, Elrond was not favorable in giving Arwen away to Aragorn unless he was worthy of her hand. Aragorn had to take what was rightfully his (the kingship of Gondor and Arnor) before Elrond allowed Arwen to give up her life as an elf and become mortal.
Elrond was saddened by Arwen's decision to love a mortal--even if he were to become the King. His final consent and approval to give Arwen away to Aragorn did not come easy, so when he did, it was a very great show of support!
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Post by Desi Baggins on Jan 25, 2005 9:41:53 GMT -6
Some think Elrond may have been the one to give the greatest respect, but Aragorn had to work very hard to get it. Elrond wasn't able to just see deep inside Aragorn and know that he was going to make a great King. Some gave respect to Aragorn before even knowing who he was and others did just by knowing who he was. I think that being able to trust in someone without him proving himself is very great too.
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Post by Stormrider on Mar 26, 2006 8:29:34 GMT -6
I agree, Desi. Not knowing someone and trusting them is not easy. I remember the first time I read FOTR and encountered Strider at The Prancing Pony. I was much more like Sam, distrusting. As you mentioned earlier in this thread, Frodo gave his trust without knowing who Strider really was!
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Post by Stormrider on Mar 27, 2006 7:34:13 GMT -6
The Dead followed Aragorn to the Pelennor Fields. But did they do it only to repay the debt they owed to Isildur? Did they do it only because they wished to be released from their punishment and gain their rest? Or did they do it because they supported and trusted Aragorn?
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Post by Desi Baggins on Mar 27, 2006 8:35:09 GMT -6
I think the Dead only did it to re-pay their debt, I think they were selfish in that respect.
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Post by Stormrider on Aug 14, 2007 18:33:38 GMT -6
I think the Dead did it to repay their debt, true, but having been dead for so many years, they learned their lesson and were being given the chance to repent and show fealty. I think they were glad to be given the chance to finally repay their debt to Isildur's heir. Who knows, somehow they may have heard the old tales and poems about the oath they had broken and may have been waiting for Aragorn to come. I wonder if they knew that they would be at rest once they helped Aragorn. I know the movie showed that but I can't remember all the details in the book. I am just getting to JRRT's early manuscripts in War of the Ring so I might find out soon.
Anyway, I think Aragorn earned the respect of the Dead by coming to get them. He could have left them there and never asked for their help. Also I think the Dead may have become loyal to Aragorn in the process of fighting with him.
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Post by Stormrider on Aug 14, 2007 18:36:30 GMT -6
Ioreth, the woman in the Houses of Healing in Minas Tirith also thought that Aragorn deserved to be King. She foresaw that the King was a great healer and she watched Aragorn heal Éowyn, Faramir, and Merry (among others I am sure). That sold Ioreth on him!
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