Post by Andorinha on Jan 14, 2009 17:50:52 GMT -6
AdvOf TB ARCHIVE: Hey Diddle-diddle!
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Message 1 of 1 in Discussion From: Glorfindle
Sent: 9/13/2002 7:21 PM
Hey Diddle-diddle
The cat and the fidle
The cow jumped over the moon
The little dog laughed to see such sport
and the dish ran way with the spoon.
How I loved that poem as a child. I guess you would call it a nursery rhyme. But I am so tickled to death to finally get to my favorite Tolkien poems. Iarwain promised the best was left for last, and although I know many must disagree, I am in my glory. It holds so many fond memorys for me. My grandmother used to bounce me on her more than ample stomach when I was a wee lad around 3-4, before making me go to sleep on the double bed we lay in.
She sang many rhymes to me, the origin of which I have no clue. She was German (shades of Grimm), and my grandfather was Irish (shades of an angry origin), but the joy I felt then was simple, innocent and fun.
Here is another nonsense rhyme she sang, if maybe someone has a clue to the origin.........
Rub a dub dub
Three men in a tub
The butcher, the baker,
the candlestick maker,
they all jumped out of
a rotten potato
I know you are all laughing, because I read it too somewhere since, and the ending is quite different. But this is the essence of my premise. These two " man in the moon poems" of Tolkien, were they originated in old Folklore and Nursery Rhymes? Or did they originate them? I am not a Folklore or Nursery Rhyme scholar, so I am very interested in the answer.
I have much more to say on these poems, as they are my favorite in the collection, but I figure I would start somewhere first, (here) and proceed ( to there), lol.
Laughing and having great fun,
Glor
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Message 1 of 1 in Discussion From: Glorfindle
Sent: 9/13/2002 7:21 PM
Hey Diddle-diddle
The cat and the fidle
The cow jumped over the moon
The little dog laughed to see such sport
and the dish ran way with the spoon.
How I loved that poem as a child. I guess you would call it a nursery rhyme. But I am so tickled to death to finally get to my favorite Tolkien poems. Iarwain promised the best was left for last, and although I know many must disagree, I am in my glory. It holds so many fond memorys for me. My grandmother used to bounce me on her more than ample stomach when I was a wee lad around 3-4, before making me go to sleep on the double bed we lay in.
She sang many rhymes to me, the origin of which I have no clue. She was German (shades of Grimm), and my grandfather was Irish (shades of an angry origin), but the joy I felt then was simple, innocent and fun.
Here is another nonsense rhyme she sang, if maybe someone has a clue to the origin.........
Rub a dub dub
Three men in a tub
The butcher, the baker,
the candlestick maker,
they all jumped out of
a rotten potato
I know you are all laughing, because I read it too somewhere since, and the ending is quite different. But this is the essence of my premise. These two " man in the moon poems" of Tolkien, were they originated in old Folklore and Nursery Rhymes? Or did they originate them? I am not a Folklore or Nursery Rhyme scholar, so I am very interested in the answer.
I have much more to say on these poems, as they are my favorite in the collection, but I figure I would start somewhere first, (here) and proceed ( to there), lol.
Laughing and having great fun,
Glor