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Beowulf ARCHIVE: LATE BREAKING NEWS!!!
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From: Glorfindle
Sent: 12/29/2002 2:01 PM
FROM TORN:
New Tolkien Manuscript Unearthed
Jincey @ 12:15 pm EST
Ro alerted us to the astounding news that a handwritten manuscript of Beowulf was found buried in a box of JRR Tolkien's papers that are housed in the Bodleian Library in Oxford, England by Michael Drout, assistant professor of English at Wheaton College in Norton, Massachusetts. Drout was researching Anglo-Saxon scholarship at the time for his book 'Beowulf and the Critics', published earlier this month. According to the Sunday Times, which has reported this story, "I was sitting there going through the transcripts when I saw these four bound volumes at the bottom of the box. I started looking through and realised I had found an entire book of material that had never seen the light of day." This manuscript consists of a translation and line by line interpretation of the epic poem. It is considered by scholars to be much closer to the original Anglo Saxon than the latest publication.
We are searching for a postable link to this story now, but in the meantime, we wanted to bring you the news that Tolkien's Beowulf manuscript is going to be published next summer.
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From: Amaranth
Sent: 12/29/2002 3:08 PM
More on the way!
www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,5764569%255E13780,00.html
New Tolkien book discovered
December 30, 2002
A YELLOWING manuscript by J.R.R.Tolkien discovered in an Oxford library could become one of the publishing sensations of 2003.
The 2000 handwritten pages include Tolkien's translation and appraisal of Beowulf, the epic 8th century Anglo-Saxon poem of bravery, friendship and monster-slaying that is thought to have inspired The Lord of the Rings.He borrowed from early English verse to concoct the imaginary language spoken by Arwen, played by Liv Tyler, and other elves in the second film made from the Rings books, The Two Towers.A US academic, Michael Drout, found the Tolkien material by accident in a box of papers at the Bodleian Library in Oxford.An assistant professor of English at Wheaton College in Norton, Massachusetts, Dr Drout was researching Anglo- Saxon scholarship at the Bodleian, and asked to see a copy of a lecture on Beowulf given by Tolkien in 1936.It was brought to him in a reading room in a large box. Professor Drout, who reads Anglo-Saxon prose to his two-year-old daughter at bedtime, said: "I was sitting there going through the transcripts when I saw these four bound volumes at the bottom of the box."I started looking through, and realised I had found an entire book of material that had never seen the light of day. As I turned the page, there was Tolkien's fingerprint in a smudge of ink."After obtaining permission from the Tolkien estate, Professor Drout published Beowulf and the Critics, a version of Tolkien's 1936 lecture, in the US earlier this month.Even more exciting will be Tolkien's translation of the poem and his line-by-line interpretation of its meaning, which will be published next summer.Tolkien's name on the cover is likely to make the translation a bestseller.Professor Drout says Tolkien found inspiration for many of his storylines and characters in Beowulf. The Anglo-Saxon hero's friendship with Wiglaf is mirrored in the relationship between Frodo and Sam in The Lord of the Rings.Elves, orcs and ents, the latter a type of giant that becomes a walking and talking tree in Tolkien's work, are all mentioned in Beowulf.Merlin Unwin, son of Tolkien's original publisher, said: "Beowulf is a wonderful story, and if you put Tolkien's name to it, it would probably be a great commercial success."
The Australian
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From: Amaranth
Sent: 12/29/2002 3:09 PM
Friggin' pop-up ad changed the URL before I could copy it -- AAARGH!!!
Posted on Sun, Dec. 29, 2002
'Rings' lords over pop culture
BY ANTHONY BREZNICAN
Associated Press
Deep into their quest to destroy the evil One Ring, the hobbit Samwise Gamgee asks his friend Frodo if people will ever write ''songs and tales'' about their adventures.
The line from the new film version of author J.R.R. Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers, is a wink to fans who already know the answer.
Over the decades, Tolkien's world of elves, wizards, monsters and magic has provided gothic inspiration for Stephen King thrillers, Led Zeppelin songs, and games and paintings while spawning countless sword-and-sorcery novel followers.
''Tolkien would be delighted by the popularity of the work, even though he might be off-put by the way some have interpreted it,'' said Mike Foster, a literature professor at Illinois Central College and spokesman for the Tolkien Society historical group.
For instance, The Lord of the Rings is regarded as an influence on some rock music of the 1970s.
Direct Tolkien references exist in Led Zeppelin's Ramble On, Misty Mountain Hop and The Battle of Evermore and Rush's Rivendell, which was one of the writer's elvish cities.
'Led Zeppelin would not have been to [Tolkien's] taste, but they were trying to evoke the same sort of mythic `hammer of the gods' feeling,'' Foster said.
The Lord of the Rings trilogy, partly inspired by such tales as Sir Gawain and the Green Knight and Beowulf, was published between 1954 and 1955 and surged in popularity during the late 1960s and '70s.
After Tolkien's death in 1973, a wave of authors began competing for the attention of his fantasy fans, among them Terry Brooks with the Sword of Shannara series, Robert Jordan's The Wheel of Time books and Dennis L. McKiernan's Mithgar stories.
Even King, the world's best-selling fantasy and horror author, has acknowledged a debt to Tolkien, saying his 1978 novel The Stand, about a group of survivors fighting Armageddon after a worldwide plague, was an attempt to remake Middle-earth as the United States. His fantasy series The Dark Tower includes Tolkien references and a Fellowship-like adventure with monsters and magic.
''The fascination with Tolkien is this intensely poetic, beautiful framework,'' said illustrator Stephen Hickman, whose Tolkien-themed works include At the Entmoot, about the meeting of ancient, treelike creatures in The Two Towers. ``His characters became these archetypal, perfect characters that just continue to ring in the reader's imagination.''
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From: DaleAnn
Sent: 12/30/2002 2:24 AM
Ok, I read the article that Amaranth linked us to...this is old news that I reported from the Dr. Drout lecture I attended in April of 2002.
The main difference is that the similar articles I've read about this say that Tolkien's Beowulf will be published next year. Dr. Drout wasn't that optomistic in April.
In my wanderings, I took a look at Dr. Drout's Blog, which he has started writing in again. Some interesting stuff about Fantasy lit, review of TTT, the book that was just published -- Beowulf and the Critics.
wormtalk.blogspot.com/ ---DA
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From: Glorfindle
Sent: 12/30/2002 7:31 AM
OK...sorry to get everyone worked up.....not all news reaches everyone at the same time. Even 'TORN' treated it as a new find. Just goes to show how we need investigators and reporters here at TR. I bet we could do a much better job once we get it started!
I think the big difference has been in the way we have reported on things. In the past most revelations, such as DA hearing about the manuscripts have been in the body of a post, or an aside. Perhaps a better way to think about things may be in the form of a reporting post. Perhaps once Algy gets a format of some sort going, it will appear alot easier than we think. In any case, I am looking forward to this new feature of TR. (you all know how much I like new stuff, lol).
Glor
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From: Zauber
Sent: 12/30/2002 7:38 AM
DaleAnne reported this news some time ago, but it's nice to see it brought to attention again, as it is on an old message. I am eagerly awaiting the publication, and April does seem too early for publication from what I have read. But April sure would be great!
I have just received the copy of "Beowulf and the Critics" edited by Drout, and it is languishing on my desk unread. GRRR! I'll report on it as soon as possible, but please don't turn blue holding your breath!
I am pleased to see others as excited by this news as I am.
Zaube
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From: Slade
Sent: 1/6/2003 5:40 PM
I passed this information onto Syd, and he's corresponded with Drout and gleaned some 'insider info' and posted it at his site here:
www.jagular.com/beowulf/tolk.shtml
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From: Zauber
Sent: 1/7/2003 9:02 AM
Thank you Slade and Syd! Now, let me ask, what is a BLOG? I saw that on Michael Drout's pages and wondered. Zauber
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From: Elanor
Sent: 1/7/2003 1:59 PM
The article Amaranth states:
''Tolkien would be delighted by the popularity of the work, even though he might be off-put by the way some have interpreted it,'' said Mike Foster, a literature professor at Illinois Central College and spokesman for the Tolkien Society historical group.
Illinois Central College is a little community college in my hometown. Maybe I should give it a little more credit. Funny I haven't found any real Tolkien fans around here.
elanor
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From: SydAllan
Sent: 1/7/2003 3:26 PM
"BLOG" is short for "web-log." "BLOGGING" is a general term now used to describe the personal diaries and essays that many people now publish on their personal websites.
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From: SydAllan
Sent: 1/7/2003 3:45 PM
FYI, for those interested in doing a little BLOGGING, you have a lot of options, but one of the popular ones is to use the www.livejournal.com/ website. You post your journal, and you can also indicate which of the other LiveJournal users are your friends, and link your journals to theirs.
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From: MSN NicknameStorrmrider
Sent: 9/27/2007 6:09 AM
Michael Drout was in the process of translating the Tolkien manuscripts of his Beowulf translation. Here is a site that talks about this. www.beowulftranslations.net/tolk.shtml
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From: Glorfindle
Sent: 12/29/2002 2:01 PM
FROM TORN:
New Tolkien Manuscript Unearthed
Jincey @ 12:15 pm EST
Ro alerted us to the astounding news that a handwritten manuscript of Beowulf was found buried in a box of JRR Tolkien's papers that are housed in the Bodleian Library in Oxford, England by Michael Drout, assistant professor of English at Wheaton College in Norton, Massachusetts. Drout was researching Anglo-Saxon scholarship at the time for his book 'Beowulf and the Critics', published earlier this month. According to the Sunday Times, which has reported this story, "I was sitting there going through the transcripts when I saw these four bound volumes at the bottom of the box. I started looking through and realised I had found an entire book of material that had never seen the light of day." This manuscript consists of a translation and line by line interpretation of the epic poem. It is considered by scholars to be much closer to the original Anglo Saxon than the latest publication.
We are searching for a postable link to this story now, but in the meantime, we wanted to bring you the news that Tolkien's Beowulf manuscript is going to be published next summer.
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From: Amaranth
Sent: 12/29/2002 3:08 PM
More on the way!
www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,5764569%255E13780,00.html
New Tolkien book discovered
December 30, 2002
A YELLOWING manuscript by J.R.R.Tolkien discovered in an Oxford library could become one of the publishing sensations of 2003.
The 2000 handwritten pages include Tolkien's translation and appraisal of Beowulf, the epic 8th century Anglo-Saxon poem of bravery, friendship and monster-slaying that is thought to have inspired The Lord of the Rings.He borrowed from early English verse to concoct the imaginary language spoken by Arwen, played by Liv Tyler, and other elves in the second film made from the Rings books, The Two Towers.A US academic, Michael Drout, found the Tolkien material by accident in a box of papers at the Bodleian Library in Oxford.An assistant professor of English at Wheaton College in Norton, Massachusetts, Dr Drout was researching Anglo- Saxon scholarship at the Bodleian, and asked to see a copy of a lecture on Beowulf given by Tolkien in 1936.It was brought to him in a reading room in a large box. Professor Drout, who reads Anglo-Saxon prose to his two-year-old daughter at bedtime, said: "I was sitting there going through the transcripts when I saw these four bound volumes at the bottom of the box."I started looking through, and realised I had found an entire book of material that had never seen the light of day. As I turned the page, there was Tolkien's fingerprint in a smudge of ink."After obtaining permission from the Tolkien estate, Professor Drout published Beowulf and the Critics, a version of Tolkien's 1936 lecture, in the US earlier this month.Even more exciting will be Tolkien's translation of the poem and his line-by-line interpretation of its meaning, which will be published next summer.Tolkien's name on the cover is likely to make the translation a bestseller.Professor Drout says Tolkien found inspiration for many of his storylines and characters in Beowulf. The Anglo-Saxon hero's friendship with Wiglaf is mirrored in the relationship between Frodo and Sam in The Lord of the Rings.Elves, orcs and ents, the latter a type of giant that becomes a walking and talking tree in Tolkien's work, are all mentioned in Beowulf.Merlin Unwin, son of Tolkien's original publisher, said: "Beowulf is a wonderful story, and if you put Tolkien's name to it, it would probably be a great commercial success."
The Australian
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From: Amaranth
Sent: 12/29/2002 3:09 PM
Friggin' pop-up ad changed the URL before I could copy it -- AAARGH!!!
Posted on Sun, Dec. 29, 2002
'Rings' lords over pop culture
BY ANTHONY BREZNICAN
Associated Press
Deep into their quest to destroy the evil One Ring, the hobbit Samwise Gamgee asks his friend Frodo if people will ever write ''songs and tales'' about their adventures.
The line from the new film version of author J.R.R. Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers, is a wink to fans who already know the answer.
Over the decades, Tolkien's world of elves, wizards, monsters and magic has provided gothic inspiration for Stephen King thrillers, Led Zeppelin songs, and games and paintings while spawning countless sword-and-sorcery novel followers.
''Tolkien would be delighted by the popularity of the work, even though he might be off-put by the way some have interpreted it,'' said Mike Foster, a literature professor at Illinois Central College and spokesman for the Tolkien Society historical group.
For instance, The Lord of the Rings is regarded as an influence on some rock music of the 1970s.
Direct Tolkien references exist in Led Zeppelin's Ramble On, Misty Mountain Hop and The Battle of Evermore and Rush's Rivendell, which was one of the writer's elvish cities.
'Led Zeppelin would not have been to [Tolkien's] taste, but they were trying to evoke the same sort of mythic `hammer of the gods' feeling,'' Foster said.
The Lord of the Rings trilogy, partly inspired by such tales as Sir Gawain and the Green Knight and Beowulf, was published between 1954 and 1955 and surged in popularity during the late 1960s and '70s.
After Tolkien's death in 1973, a wave of authors began competing for the attention of his fantasy fans, among them Terry Brooks with the Sword of Shannara series, Robert Jordan's The Wheel of Time books and Dennis L. McKiernan's Mithgar stories.
Even King, the world's best-selling fantasy and horror author, has acknowledged a debt to Tolkien, saying his 1978 novel The Stand, about a group of survivors fighting Armageddon after a worldwide plague, was an attempt to remake Middle-earth as the United States. His fantasy series The Dark Tower includes Tolkien references and a Fellowship-like adventure with monsters and magic.
''The fascination with Tolkien is this intensely poetic, beautiful framework,'' said illustrator Stephen Hickman, whose Tolkien-themed works include At the Entmoot, about the meeting of ancient, treelike creatures in The Two Towers. ``His characters became these archetypal, perfect characters that just continue to ring in the reader's imagination.''
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From: DaleAnn
Sent: 12/30/2002 2:24 AM
Ok, I read the article that Amaranth linked us to...this is old news that I reported from the Dr. Drout lecture I attended in April of 2002.
The main difference is that the similar articles I've read about this say that Tolkien's Beowulf will be published next year. Dr. Drout wasn't that optomistic in April.
In my wanderings, I took a look at Dr. Drout's Blog, which he has started writing in again. Some interesting stuff about Fantasy lit, review of TTT, the book that was just published -- Beowulf and the Critics.
wormtalk.blogspot.com/ ---DA
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From: Glorfindle
Sent: 12/30/2002 7:31 AM
OK...sorry to get everyone worked up.....not all news reaches everyone at the same time. Even 'TORN' treated it as a new find. Just goes to show how we need investigators and reporters here at TR. I bet we could do a much better job once we get it started!
I think the big difference has been in the way we have reported on things. In the past most revelations, such as DA hearing about the manuscripts have been in the body of a post, or an aside. Perhaps a better way to think about things may be in the form of a reporting post. Perhaps once Algy gets a format of some sort going, it will appear alot easier than we think. In any case, I am looking forward to this new feature of TR. (you all know how much I like new stuff, lol).
Glor
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From: Zauber
Sent: 12/30/2002 7:38 AM
DaleAnne reported this news some time ago, but it's nice to see it brought to attention again, as it is on an old message. I am eagerly awaiting the publication, and April does seem too early for publication from what I have read. But April sure would be great!
I have just received the copy of "Beowulf and the Critics" edited by Drout, and it is languishing on my desk unread. GRRR! I'll report on it as soon as possible, but please don't turn blue holding your breath!
I am pleased to see others as excited by this news as I am.
Zaube
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From: Slade
Sent: 1/6/2003 5:40 PM
I passed this information onto Syd, and he's corresponded with Drout and gleaned some 'insider info' and posted it at his site here:
www.jagular.com/beowulf/tolk.shtml
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From: Zauber
Sent: 1/7/2003 9:02 AM
Thank you Slade and Syd! Now, let me ask, what is a BLOG? I saw that on Michael Drout's pages and wondered. Zauber
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From: Elanor
Sent: 1/7/2003 1:59 PM
The article Amaranth states:
''Tolkien would be delighted by the popularity of the work, even though he might be off-put by the way some have interpreted it,'' said Mike Foster, a literature professor at Illinois Central College and spokesman for the Tolkien Society historical group.
Illinois Central College is a little community college in my hometown. Maybe I should give it a little more credit. Funny I haven't found any real Tolkien fans around here.
elanor
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From: SydAllan
Sent: 1/7/2003 3:26 PM
"BLOG" is short for "web-log." "BLOGGING" is a general term now used to describe the personal diaries and essays that many people now publish on their personal websites.
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From: SydAllan
Sent: 1/7/2003 3:45 PM
FYI, for those interested in doing a little BLOGGING, you have a lot of options, but one of the popular ones is to use the www.livejournal.com/ website. You post your journal, and you can also indicate which of the other LiveJournal users are your friends, and link your journals to theirs.
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From: MSN NicknameStorrmrider
Sent: 9/27/2007 6:09 AM
Michael Drout was in the process of translating the Tolkien manuscripts of his Beowulf translation. Here is a site that talks about this. www.beowulftranslations.net/tolk.shtml