Post by MajahTR on Jan 18, 2009 21:30:38 GMT -6
We have come to Bree. For the first time I noticed that Bree predated the Kingdom of Arnor. I wonder if the dike and hedge and gates were built to keep the arguing Dunedain and also the people of Angmar out. Bree is a basically a small town even though by rights it should be large. The plague of 1636TA decimated the population of the north I really get the sense of the northern Kingdom as a desolate place.
I noticed that when Frodo was introducing the group he said: Mr. Brandybuck, Mr. Took, Underhill, and SAM Gamgee. No Mr. Gamgee for Sam.
Frodo came up with a plausible cover for himself in writing a book. It seems though that the local Hobbits found it to be something astonishing. Perhaps, few of them knew how to read and write.
And then, we meet Strider with his pair of keen grey eyes. (Amaranth are you paying attention?) Hard to imagine that this is an 87 year old man.
We are interrupted by that "Fool of a Took" telling the story of Bilbo's disappearance. Frodo tries to save the day by a short speech and then his rendition of "The Man on the Moon Stayed up Too Late". I believe this is the same word for word as the one found in the Adventures of Tom Bombadil. And I believe it was published under another name in 1923. Tolkien really knew how to recycle. This poem is on the Adv. of TB board. If you have anything you'd like to say about it, please, put it on that board.
The big moment has arrived. The Ring slipped on Frodo's finger. All the other times that Frodo had been tempted before this, he resisted. Now quite by "accident" the Ring ended up on his finger. From this point forward, he gives in to the temptation more often than not. Actually, I'm having a hard time remembering if he ever resists successfully again. Frodo wonders if the Ring wished to reveal itself or if it was truly an accident. I think that the Ring did slip on his finger on purpose. Frodo had resisted the urges up to this point. If the ring is sentient it would have realized by this point that its "frontal attacks" were useless. It had to use trickery.
Harry the gatekeeper goes out the door with the squint eyed southerner and Bill Ferny. What happened to watching the gate?
Frodo again comes up with an explanation of his behavior. But, Strider and then Butterbur want to have a word with him. I never noticed the amount of suspicion from all quarters within this chapter before. Is it a sign of the times, or is it because Bree always has a "transient" population of travelers?
DA
> And then, we meet Strider with his pair of keen grey eyes. (Amaranth
> are you paying attention?)
Heh! Yes, and it fits in with my latest theory: That grey indicates an
in-between or threshhold state. Aragorn talks about Strider as though
he's another another person. Even without that, on one hand he's a
wandering Ranger and hunter, and on the other hand, he's the rightful
king of Arnor and Gondor. He's gold but doesn't glitter; he wanders but
is not lost. Aragorn/Strider is a....is 'dichotomy' the right word?
Diana
Frodo does resist the ring again, but I'm not sure if this happens in FotR.I will try to keep an eye out if an example comes up. I particularly remember him asking Sam to hold onto his hands sometime in RotK, so that he won't be able to reach for the ring. Always ready to put in a word on behalf of Frodo. lol.
Fallohide
I noticed that when Frodo was introducing the group he said: Mr. Brandybuck, Mr. Took, Underhill, and SAM Gamgee. No Mr. Gamgee for Sam.
Frodo came up with a plausible cover for himself in writing a book. It seems though that the local Hobbits found it to be something astonishing. Perhaps, few of them knew how to read and write.
And then, we meet Strider with his pair of keen grey eyes. (Amaranth are you paying attention?) Hard to imagine that this is an 87 year old man.
We are interrupted by that "Fool of a Took" telling the story of Bilbo's disappearance. Frodo tries to save the day by a short speech and then his rendition of "The Man on the Moon Stayed up Too Late". I believe this is the same word for word as the one found in the Adventures of Tom Bombadil. And I believe it was published under another name in 1923. Tolkien really knew how to recycle. This poem is on the Adv. of TB board. If you have anything you'd like to say about it, please, put it on that board.
The big moment has arrived. The Ring slipped on Frodo's finger. All the other times that Frodo had been tempted before this, he resisted. Now quite by "accident" the Ring ended up on his finger. From this point forward, he gives in to the temptation more often than not. Actually, I'm having a hard time remembering if he ever resists successfully again. Frodo wonders if the Ring wished to reveal itself or if it was truly an accident. I think that the Ring did slip on his finger on purpose. Frodo had resisted the urges up to this point. If the ring is sentient it would have realized by this point that its "frontal attacks" were useless. It had to use trickery.
Harry the gatekeeper goes out the door with the squint eyed southerner and Bill Ferny. What happened to watching the gate?
Frodo again comes up with an explanation of his behavior. But, Strider and then Butterbur want to have a word with him. I never noticed the amount of suspicion from all quarters within this chapter before. Is it a sign of the times, or is it because Bree always has a "transient" population of travelers?
DA
> And then, we meet Strider with his pair of keen grey eyes. (Amaranth
> are you paying attention?)
Heh! Yes, and it fits in with my latest theory: That grey indicates an
in-between or threshhold state. Aragorn talks about Strider as though
he's another another person. Even without that, on one hand he's a
wandering Ranger and hunter, and on the other hand, he's the rightful
king of Arnor and Gondor. He's gold but doesn't glitter; he wanders but
is not lost. Aragorn/Strider is a....is 'dichotomy' the right word?
Diana
Frodo does resist the ring again, but I'm not sure if this happens in FotR.I will try to keep an eye out if an example comes up. I particularly remember him asking Sam to hold onto his hands sometime in RotK, so that he won't be able to reach for the ring. Always ready to put in a word on behalf of Frodo. lol.
Fallohide