Post by Stormrider on Jan 20, 2009 19:41:31 GMT -6
From: DaleAnn (Original Message) Sent: 10/21/2002 10:29 AM
Stormrider would like to track the theme of Pity and Compassion through TTT. She is responsible to post however, anyone may comment or add to it.
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From: Storrmrider Sent: 11/11/2002 10:47 PM
Here are some definitions of the words from Webster's New World Dictionary that I am bringing over from the FOTR study:
Pity 1. sorrow for another’s suffering or misfortune 2. A cause for sorrow
Compassion deep sympathy, pity
Mercy 1. Compassion or restraint with regard to the treatment of offenders, enemies, etc. 2. A disposition to be kind or to forgive 3. Kind or compassionate treatment 4. A thing to be grateful for
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From: Storrmrider Sent: 11/11/2002 11:46 PM
Book 3, Chapter 6 - The King of the Golden Hall
After Theoden listens to all that Gandalf tells him, and Grima is still trying to persuade him otherwise, Theoden tells Hama to get the men and horses ready for battle. Of course, since Wormtongue is working for Saruman, he does not want that to happen and still tries to stop this by saying that Gandalf has bewitched him and not to send everyone from Theoden's side. Theoden replies:
"If this is bewitchment, it seems to me more wholesome than your whisperings. Your leechcraft ere long would have had me walking on all fours like a beast. Not one shall be left, not even Grima. Grima shall ride, too. Go, Clean the rust from your sword!"
Of course, Grima does not like that comment and tries to get out of that by saying this:
"Mercy, lord! Have pity on one worn out in your servie. Send me not from your side! I at least will stand by you when all others have gone. Do not send your faithful Grima away!"
Grima is asking for mercy definition 1 to be forgiven for his "leechcraft" (I like that word!) and pity definition 1 for his worn out state.
Then Theoden says that Grima has his pity but that he will not send him from his side and that Grima can accompany him and prove his faith. I think Theoden's pity is for Grima's suffering or misfortune because now Theoden is testing him to see how faithful he really is by challenging him to ride to battle at his side. Grima is really squirming now!
But Gandalf is not showing Grima any pity or mercy when he sends him away to slink off to Saruman. Gandalf always has a reason for doing what he does and I think he wants Grima to go to Saruman and warn him. In the long run, Gandalf's allowing Grima to go pays off later in the story.
Stormrider
Stormrider would like to track the theme of Pity and Compassion through TTT. She is responsible to post however, anyone may comment or add to it.
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From: Storrmrider Sent: 11/11/2002 10:47 PM
Here are some definitions of the words from Webster's New World Dictionary that I am bringing over from the FOTR study:
Pity 1. sorrow for another’s suffering or misfortune 2. A cause for sorrow
Compassion deep sympathy, pity
Mercy 1. Compassion or restraint with regard to the treatment of offenders, enemies, etc. 2. A disposition to be kind or to forgive 3. Kind or compassionate treatment 4. A thing to be grateful for
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From: Storrmrider Sent: 11/11/2002 11:46 PM
Book 3, Chapter 6 - The King of the Golden Hall
After Theoden listens to all that Gandalf tells him, and Grima is still trying to persuade him otherwise, Theoden tells Hama to get the men and horses ready for battle. Of course, since Wormtongue is working for Saruman, he does not want that to happen and still tries to stop this by saying that Gandalf has bewitched him and not to send everyone from Theoden's side. Theoden replies:
"If this is bewitchment, it seems to me more wholesome than your whisperings. Your leechcraft ere long would have had me walking on all fours like a beast. Not one shall be left, not even Grima. Grima shall ride, too. Go, Clean the rust from your sword!"
Of course, Grima does not like that comment and tries to get out of that by saying this:
"Mercy, lord! Have pity on one worn out in your servie. Send me not from your side! I at least will stand by you when all others have gone. Do not send your faithful Grima away!"
Grima is asking for mercy definition 1 to be forgiven for his "leechcraft" (I like that word!) and pity definition 1 for his worn out state.
Then Theoden says that Grima has his pity but that he will not send him from his side and that Grima can accompany him and prove his faith. I think Theoden's pity is for Grima's suffering or misfortune because now Theoden is testing him to see how faithful he really is by challenging him to ride to battle at his side. Grima is really squirming now!
But Gandalf is not showing Grima any pity or mercy when he sends him away to slink off to Saruman. Gandalf always has a reason for doing what he does and I think he wants Grima to go to Saruman and warn him. In the long run, Gandalf's allowing Grima to go pays off later in the story.
Stormrider