Post by Stormrider on Jan 21, 2009 6:55:34 GMT -6
From: Lord_Algamesh (Original Message) Sent: 10/28/2002 11:06 PM
In our previous assignment, we were given a glimpse of the Men of Rohan. Now ... we find ourselves standing in the King's Hall and interacting with the Horse-Lords. It has been previously mentioned during the study that the Rohirrim seem tribal. Is that thought echoed even more loudly now? Is there a difference between tribal and clannish? We know that the root speech and the culture of this people is derived from the Anglo-Saxon peoples of Europe. Are the Rohirrim a direct reflection of the Nordic peoples or are there hints of Germanic, Welsh or other cultures intertwined into their creation?
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From: LovesBeren Sent: 11/19/2002 10:27 PM
I am so glad you said they were derived from Anglo-Saxon... That is exactly what I thought. I knew that Tolkien wanted so badly to truly give these people a written history. Perhaps the most vivid picture is inside the King's Hall... it feels damp and clammy ...it echos... not like Minas Tirith or any of the Elven halls...
Luthien (Sarah)
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From: Eleandune Sent: 11/24/2002 6:53 PM
The Rohirrim do have their own sort of feel among the men of Middle Earth - they aren't quite as "high" or "pure," so to speak, as the men of Gondor, but they do have honor and history, although most of it is oral. My book isn't handy at the moment, but I remember Tolkien mentioning that they didn't really make books or such things, but had songs and tales of battle instead. They seem like warriors rather than scholars - a bit more barbaric and less refined. Even their architecture shows that - they live in wooden thatched huts on a hill, not in a huge white city carved out of the side of a mountain. And they're very defensive and protective too; I think that makes them seem "clannish" as you mentioned before - they certainly don't trust strangers and they generally keep to themselves. But they are trustworthy friends (once you earn their trust), even if they aren't quite as refined as the men of Gondor.
The contrast between Rohan and Gondor makes me wonder what nationality the men of Gondor are intended to represent - Algamesh, do you know?
Eleandune
In our previous assignment, we were given a glimpse of the Men of Rohan. Now ... we find ourselves standing in the King's Hall and interacting with the Horse-Lords. It has been previously mentioned during the study that the Rohirrim seem tribal. Is that thought echoed even more loudly now? Is there a difference between tribal and clannish? We know that the root speech and the culture of this people is derived from the Anglo-Saxon peoples of Europe. Are the Rohirrim a direct reflection of the Nordic peoples or are there hints of Germanic, Welsh or other cultures intertwined into their creation?
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From: LovesBeren Sent: 11/19/2002 10:27 PM
I am so glad you said they were derived from Anglo-Saxon... That is exactly what I thought. I knew that Tolkien wanted so badly to truly give these people a written history. Perhaps the most vivid picture is inside the King's Hall... it feels damp and clammy ...it echos... not like Minas Tirith or any of the Elven halls...
Luthien (Sarah)
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From: Eleandune Sent: 11/24/2002 6:53 PM
The Rohirrim do have their own sort of feel among the men of Middle Earth - they aren't quite as "high" or "pure," so to speak, as the men of Gondor, but they do have honor and history, although most of it is oral. My book isn't handy at the moment, but I remember Tolkien mentioning that they didn't really make books or such things, but had songs and tales of battle instead. They seem like warriors rather than scholars - a bit more barbaric and less refined. Even their architecture shows that - they live in wooden thatched huts on a hill, not in a huge white city carved out of the side of a mountain. And they're very defensive and protective too; I think that makes them seem "clannish" as you mentioned before - they certainly don't trust strangers and they generally keep to themselves. But they are trustworthy friends (once you earn their trust), even if they aren't quite as refined as the men of Gondor.
The contrast between Rohan and Gondor makes me wonder what nationality the men of Gondor are intended to represent - Algamesh, do you know?
Eleandune