Post by Stormrider on Jan 23, 2009 7:23:18 GMT -6
From: Lord_Algamesh (Original Message) Sent: 11/29/2002 10:56 PM
As Gandalf and Merry ride away from Orthanc in Chapter 11: The Palantir, Gandalf utters the following to the young hobbit :
"He had his eyes on you. If it is any comfort to your pride, I should say that, at the moment, you and Pippin are more in his thoughts than all the rest of us. Who are you; how you came there, and why; what you know; whether you were captured, and if so, how you escaped when all the Orcs perished - it is with those little riddles that the great mind of Saruman is troubled."
I was thinking that it might be fun for us to put ourselves in Saruman's shoes and attempt to answer these questions as he would. What were his most probable conclusions (to any or all) in your opinion?
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From: Orgulas_Lostlindëion Sent: 12/16/2002 5:40 AM
I think Saruman must have wondered who those two hobbits were, and if one of them was the ringbearer. I think he also had to be wondering where the other two hobbits were gone to. His spies must have told him there were 4 hobbits in the fellowship. Saruman must have asked eveything there is to know about the fellowship. Where did those two dissappear? Maybe he thought the two captured hobbits were killed to during the battle near Fangorn forest. It would be the most likely conclusion. There is no way a small hobbit (or two) could have escaped the Rohirim, if not one of his strong orcs could. Luckely we know better.
I think Saruman thought one of the two hobbits had to be Frodo. He didn't expect Gandalf would let the ring come that close to Sauron. He was also guessing Gandalfs plans about the ring. Would he take it from the ringbearer? Had he done that already? Would he use it or hide it?
All these questions that needed to be answered, and meanwhile he needed to make new plans.
Namárië
Orgulas
As Gandalf and Merry ride away from Orthanc in Chapter 11: The Palantir, Gandalf utters the following to the young hobbit :
"He had his eyes on you. If it is any comfort to your pride, I should say that, at the moment, you and Pippin are more in his thoughts than all the rest of us. Who are you; how you came there, and why; what you know; whether you were captured, and if so, how you escaped when all the Orcs perished - it is with those little riddles that the great mind of Saruman is troubled."
I was thinking that it might be fun for us to put ourselves in Saruman's shoes and attempt to answer these questions as he would. What were his most probable conclusions (to any or all) in your opinion?
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From: Orgulas_Lostlindëion Sent: 12/16/2002 5:40 AM
I think Saruman must have wondered who those two hobbits were, and if one of them was the ringbearer. I think he also had to be wondering where the other two hobbits were gone to. His spies must have told him there were 4 hobbits in the fellowship. Saruman must have asked eveything there is to know about the fellowship. Where did those two dissappear? Maybe he thought the two captured hobbits were killed to during the battle near Fangorn forest. It would be the most likely conclusion. There is no way a small hobbit (or two) could have escaped the Rohirim, if not one of his strong orcs could. Luckely we know better.
I think Saruman thought one of the two hobbits had to be Frodo. He didn't expect Gandalf would let the ring come that close to Sauron. He was also guessing Gandalfs plans about the ring. Would he take it from the ringbearer? Had he done that already? Would he use it or hide it?
All these questions that needed to be answered, and meanwhile he needed to make new plans.
Namárië
Orgulas