Post by Stormrider on Jan 23, 2009 7:27:55 GMT -6
From: Lord_Algamesh (Original Message) Sent: 11/30/2002 12:42 AM
At the conclusion of Chapter Eleven: The Palantir, Pippin has what appears to be a dream or dream-like experience:
As he fell slowly into sleep, Pippin has a strange feeling: he and Gandalf were still as stone, seated upon the statue of a running horse, while the world rolled away beneath his feet with a great noise of wind.
What are the significant symbolisms? What was Tolkien's purpose to create this sequence?
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From: Glorfindle Sent: 11/30/2002 4:18 AM
The palantíri themselves were part of the ancient glory that was once Gondor, in the days of the old kings. I am sure one thing that can motivate both the recent inhabitants of that land and our heroes themselves, is the evidence that surrounds them of that ancient glory. It is like walking by the pyramids near Cairo today, or Giza and the Valley of Kings. To be in the proximity of the ruins of so wonderous a culture, in a land that promises a hope of return to that ancient time when the kingdom was the envy of the known world. Awesome!
Glor
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From: LovesBeren Sent: 12/30/2002 1:28 AM
My thought when I read it was the imagery was that Shadowfax was so swift and smooth that time and distance became surreal.
Luthien (Sarah)
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From: Alaere_Dûnhilien Sent: 12/30/2002 6:31 AM
My thoughts exactly, Luthien. After all, Shadowfax is the fastest horse in Middle Earth.
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From: IarwainBen-adar1 Sent: 12/30/2002 9:09 AM
Well,
I know Tolkien disliked allegory but unto this vision I have these thoughts:
Shadowfax carried the fate of Middle-earth upon his back (Gandalf), as his hoofs struck Arda's(Earth's) surface, he the last of the Mearas(Father of horses) was spinning the world to it's appointed destiny.
So like Oromë riding upon Nahar with sparks flying from his hoof falls as they ride through the night hunting fell beast, is this picture of Shadowfax at this moment.
Perhaps a bit too poetic, but it is how I enjoy museing on it.
Namárië,
Iarwain.
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From: waldakingofrohan Sent: 1/6/2003 8:57 AM
Excellent Iarwain!
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From: IarwainBen-adar1 Sent: 1/6/2003 10:22 AM
Why thank-you Walda! Sometimes I often wonder if some of my thoughts on the subject are just too strange for people. You encourge me. I'm hoping with the New Year over, inventories done and taxes soon to be filed and done, I will have more time to return the favor. Keep on reading!
Namárië,
Iarwain
At the conclusion of Chapter Eleven: The Palantir, Pippin has what appears to be a dream or dream-like experience:
As he fell slowly into sleep, Pippin has a strange feeling: he and Gandalf were still as stone, seated upon the statue of a running horse, while the world rolled away beneath his feet with a great noise of wind.
What are the significant symbolisms? What was Tolkien's purpose to create this sequence?
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From: Glorfindle Sent: 11/30/2002 4:18 AM
The palantíri themselves were part of the ancient glory that was once Gondor, in the days of the old kings. I am sure one thing that can motivate both the recent inhabitants of that land and our heroes themselves, is the evidence that surrounds them of that ancient glory. It is like walking by the pyramids near Cairo today, or Giza and the Valley of Kings. To be in the proximity of the ruins of so wonderous a culture, in a land that promises a hope of return to that ancient time when the kingdom was the envy of the known world. Awesome!
Glor
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From: LovesBeren Sent: 12/30/2002 1:28 AM
My thought when I read it was the imagery was that Shadowfax was so swift and smooth that time and distance became surreal.
Luthien (Sarah)
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From: Alaere_Dûnhilien Sent: 12/30/2002 6:31 AM
My thoughts exactly, Luthien. After all, Shadowfax is the fastest horse in Middle Earth.
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From: IarwainBen-adar1 Sent: 12/30/2002 9:09 AM
Well,
I know Tolkien disliked allegory but unto this vision I have these thoughts:
Shadowfax carried the fate of Middle-earth upon his back (Gandalf), as his hoofs struck Arda's(Earth's) surface, he the last of the Mearas(Father of horses) was spinning the world to it's appointed destiny.
So like Oromë riding upon Nahar with sparks flying from his hoof falls as they ride through the night hunting fell beast, is this picture of Shadowfax at this moment.
Perhaps a bit too poetic, but it is how I enjoy museing on it.
Namárië,
Iarwain.
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From: waldakingofrohan Sent: 1/6/2003 8:57 AM
Excellent Iarwain!
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From: IarwainBen-adar1 Sent: 1/6/2003 10:22 AM
Why thank-you Walda! Sometimes I often wonder if some of my thoughts on the subject are just too strange for people. You encourge me. I'm hoping with the New Year over, inventories done and taxes soon to be filed and done, I will have more time to return the favor. Keep on reading!
Namárië,
Iarwain