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Post by Andorinha on Apr 18, 2007 0:39:35 GMT -6
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Post by Stormrider on Apr 18, 2007 6:27:12 GMT -6
Very nice cover, but then you would expect that from Alan Lee!
I have to agree with Adam Tolkien that JRR Tolkien's story is not a brand that it is a work of art. Tolkien strove to write a story close to his heart and took great care in doing so.
However, the movie has put the brand on it and it seems that PJ has become a part of the Tolkien fame because of that. The movie franchise does seem to have taken a huge forefront to the actual books. I sure hope people will still read the books rather than just watch the movies. There is so much more in the books.
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Post by Vanye on May 2, 2007 11:10:32 GMT -6
Well is anyone else reading The Children of Hurin? I'm only on Ch.2 so far. The stories in this book are ones I wanted to know more about when I was reading UT, Lost Tales & The Sil; most especially the fall of Gondolin intrigued me because no one could find it -yet it was surrounded by so many occupied areas. Anyway I'm reading it & would love to know what everyone else thinks about it! Vanye
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Post by Stormrider on May 3, 2007 5:57:39 GMT -6
Hi Vanye:
I haven't been able to get out to the bookstore yet to get me a copy of this book. One of these days soon, I hope!
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Post by Andorinha on May 3, 2007 9:31:41 GMT -6
Hullo, Vanye!
Like Stormrider, I have not picked up a copy yet, and my book accounts are basically "overdrawn" so I probably won't get one for several months. What I'd be interested in, Vanye, if you've got the time and inclination, is your take on the book. Does the introduction tell you how much of the book is JRRT's own writing and how much is Christopher's? And do you find it easier to follow than the piece-meal bits in Unfinished Tales, HoMe etc? Maybe some of the other members are reading it now?
Thanks!
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Post by Vanye on May 11, 2007 14:46:17 GMT -6
I am just finishing Ch.8 (of 18). It has so far been an expansion on what I read in the other books. Turin & the fall of Gondolin being parts that I wished to know more about tho we have not yet come to Gondolin. I will write more as you have asked me to & shall be happy to do so. One thing I am going to begin doing this weekend is to go back to the other books to get a direct comparison to help me see what the differences/similarities are. The stories are very familiar but I need to refresh my memory about the form in which I first read them. Vanye
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Post by Andorinha on May 13, 2007 15:38:53 GMT -6
Vanye, that's great! That sort of contrasting/ comparing the various sources to Christopher's latest version is exactly what I'm looking for. I have often hoped that Chris T. inherited some of his father's ability to tell a good, long tale -- thinking that Chris might be able sometime to expand on JRRT's works without violating the style, backstory precedents, and mood... Maybe the Children of Hurin will start such a process for C. T.? Of course, he may not be interested in such projects, but I'd love to have someone competent tell the story of the "Three Remarkable Daughters" of the Old Took!
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Post by fanuidhol on Nov 21, 2007 10:17:27 GMT -6
I borrowed The Children of Hurin from my local library a couple of months ago. I don't recall reading anything brand new. It was an expansion of Turin's story from Silm and UT. It ended with the death of Morwen. My overall impression was that it was less "oppressive" than the corresponding chapter in Silm, perhaps, because it was expanded. The writing style seemed more "modern", also. I'm not sure if either of these impressions are due to the expansion itself or a change in Christopher's handling of the material to make it more reader friendly. I purposely did not read Silm or UT before or after in order to have a clean palate so to speak. Obviously though, previous experience with Silm and UT did color how I felt about this book. I will read it again some time in order to compare versions. Fan
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Post by Andorinha on Nov 22, 2007 10:01:06 GMT -6
Hullo, Fan!
Nice to see you again.
So, a "less oppressive," more "reader friendly" version...
Hmmm, do either of you, Fan and Vanye, think it worth the purchase price to get this as a separate volume? Any new material in the introduction etc that might make it something other than a "re-hash" work?
I think I'll probably try to get a library copy instead of a making another purchase.
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Post by Stormrider on Nov 22, 2007 10:03:50 GMT -6
My friend has a copy of this book and she said I could borrow it when I am ready. I glanced through one in a bookstore when it first came out and I thought it seemed really similar to the UT version although the way it was written did seem easier.
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Post by fanuidhol on Nov 23, 2007 8:24:11 GMT -6
Nice to see everybody again, too!
Andorinha, my plan is to wait for the paperback Children of Hurin. Hopefully, that will lower the price to what I can afford. I'd like to have it, but since there is really nothing new, it isn't something I need. If I recall correctly, the extra content was a basic history and an explanation of editorial decisions by CT. Do go to the library and judge for yourself. But, if it is unavailable, I think there may be some Tolkien forums that have read it which may give you a clearer idea of the content than my cloudyheaded (pun intended) version. Fan PS. For some odd reason the preview is changing r-e-m-e-m-b-e-r to "refriend". I changed my word choice to recall.
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Post by Stormrider on Nov 23, 2007 21:32:06 GMT -6
Proboards has set up some words to change automatically to another word to stop profanity and other words that offend. It seems that the word "m e m b e r" could be offensive to some people depending on how it is used. I tried to get it off the offensive word list, but it is one that is fixed by proboards.
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