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Post by Stormrider on May 27, 2008 6:01:00 GMT -6
Oh dear! I will have to change my Hobbit banner again!
No casting has begun yet! But with the pre-production not starting until 2010, I guess they have time. They said some people have "thrown in their hats" to be considered for the parts of the Dwarves already. It sounds like there even is a possibility Legolas might show up!
from Guillermo del Toro:I hope they can all come back to work on the Hobbit and Film 2!
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Post by Desi Baggins on May 27, 2008 6:38:05 GMT -6
It seems they want to do the book justice and keep in tune with the LotR movies, so I think it will be great........I am just dying to see who will be cast as dwarves.....
The question about CGI was asked and it didn't seem like they would do an entire CGI character, so my guess is they will film the dwarves and hobbits like PJ did in LotR and not make them CGI........but that was never asked specifically, so we still don't know for sure........I really hope that there are actual actors for the dwarves and not CGI!
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Post by Vanye on Jun 29, 2008 21:11:41 GMT -6
I wanted to see how Guillermo Del Torro treats fantasy so i watched 'Pan's Labyrinth' once w/& once w/o the commentary. Over all i liked the movie & found the commentary to be informative about his methodology. The effects were great. There is a bit of extreme violence that is totally necessary to that story. Am feeling fairly confident now that GDT & PJ can do justice to 'The Hobbit'. 8^)
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Post by Stormrider on May 29, 2009 5:59:56 GMT -6
I was looking for an update on The Hobbit Movie and the first thing I thought of was checking out Guillermo del Toro's website for information. Here is the link to his Hobbit Movie webpage: www.deltorofilms.com/ProjectPage.php?projectid=41&name=The%20HobbitNow I am going to go do some reading and if there is something good to talk about, I will be back!
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Post by Stormrider on May 29, 2009 6:16:15 GMT -6
I found this article from Empire movie news: www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=24610Ardo, Andorinha, and I were discussing this on Ardo's introduction thread! Bold is my emphasis: They will make it one story that will take two movies to tell. So Bilbo won't return back home to Bag End until the end of the second movie.
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Post by Andorinha on May 29, 2009 21:44:09 GMT -6
Thanks fer da info, Stormrider!
Yech. Well, maybe some long time from now, about 100 years down the road when JRRT finally goes into the public domain, there may be some truly creative (and wealth-accessed) person who will do The Hobbit "properly." LOL, won't be me, so they'll never quite get it right. For me, the tone and mood of The Hobbit is the most important characteristic of the work, sigh, "Hollywood" ain't gonna get it "right" with their slam-bam action-packed adventure formula; but then, the movie(s) should generate more readers?
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Post by Stormrider on May 30, 2009 6:15:08 GMT -6
Andorinha:
You never know, del Toro does have some comedy and lightheartedness woven into some of his action-packed, scifi movies. I think he can keep up the child's tale aspect of The Hobbit as well as the scary action-packed stuff in it and I hope he, PJ, and Fran have kept that in mind while writing and planning the script. It would be a shame to lose that feel, I agee. The ties to Gandalf's back story are just a little added plot line. Let's not give up hope until we see what he does with it.
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Post by Fredeghar Wayfarer on Jun 5, 2009 14:50:59 GMT -6
Not sure how I feel about The Hobbit being stretched over two movies. It seems unnecessary. If they could fit the three volumes of Lord of the Rings into one film each, surely they could do the same with The Hobbit, which is a much less complex story.
Making it two films sounds like New Line being money-grubbers or taking the three-hour epic filmmaking style of the trilogy to its most self-indulgent. That said, I suppose that's preferable to them cobbling the second movie together from Tolkien's notes and appendices.
Well, whatever they do, I'm sure I'll love it anyway. Jackson did a spectacular job with LOTR and I trust del Toro to carry on his vision and add a little of his own.
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Post by Stormrider on Jun 7, 2009 7:41:13 GMT -6
Fredegar: I see your point and I do agree with it BUT... I'm re-reading The Hobbit right now and I was thinking some the scenes could be stretched out to fill two movies. While the reading is quick and light, to do a movie properly might take more time. The night of eating, singing, and discussing the trip and the hiring of the Burglar could take a while. The capture by Goblins and Riddles in the Dark could take some time. You can't rush thru Mirkwood, attack by spiders, and the Hall of the Elves either! The time with Smaug is really pretty short in the book--I wonder if they will enhance that. Of course, battles can take a while to do except if they go by Bilbo's view point then it won't take long at all! With the addition of Gandalf's White Council meeting and visit to Dol Guldur I can see del Toro needing two movies.
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Post by Stormrider on Jun 12, 2009 5:46:39 GMT -6
I had to laugh today. I have been reading The Annotated Hobbit and when I reached the chapter, A Warm Welcome, I read this (Bilbo was listening to the rivermen about the trade traffic and the roads out of the East falling into disuse and the bickerings of the Lake-men and Wood-elves about the upkeep of the Forest River and its banks):Bold is my emphasis.
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Post by Stormrider on Jun 12, 2009 16:20:01 GMT -6
Hilary just sent me an email with this information in it:
thanks, Hilary!
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Post by Desi Baggins on Jun 14, 2009 7:16:59 GMT -6
On www.imdb.com they have Ian McKellen ... Gandalf (rumored) Doug Jones ... (rumored) Andy Serkis ... Gollum (rumored) Doug Jones is Abe in the Hellboy movies....it doesn't say what part he is rumored for.... I am eagerly waiting to see who plays the dwarves! I think I plan on reading the Hobbit again before the movie comes out too!
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Post by Ardo Whortleberry on Aug 2, 2009 23:16:37 GMT -6
Actually, I think someone had mentioned that Sean Connery would be a great Thorin Oakenshield, too. Well! I never would of thought of that one! Just because Sean Connery doesn't look anything like the way I have ever pictured Thorin - ( but then, look what they did with John Rhys-Davies as Gimli - I never knew it was him under all that makeup, besides the cinematic "shrink-wrapping" ) - To think of though, Mr Connery could fit the bill, as far as exuding the self-importance and haughtiness of a Thorin Oakenshield, besides having that wunnerful gravelly voice, as well...
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Post by Ardo Whortleberry on Aug 3, 2009 0:05:45 GMT -6
Fan! It is good to see you again. I agree with what you are saying about the mood of The Hobbit movie. I wonder if there will be some way to keep the hobbit storyline similar in feel to the book and then add in the back story (Gandalf and the White Council) with the feel of PJ's LOTR movie so tie in and lead into the seriousness of The One Ring and Sauron's search for it. Bilbo's adventure does have some pretty scary parts to it that would be good keeping a PJ feel to them, such as: the three Trolls, getting lost in the Goblin cavern, finding the Ring and Gollum, being chased by Goblins and Wargs, walking through Mirkwood and being attacked by spiders, heading toward the Lonely Mountain and Smaug. Those parts of the hobbit are more serious even if they were written in a lighter style. ... Greetings from me too, Fan! ~~~ I guess I went all over this back at the B&N BC, but I have had a heavy sense of foreboding all along about how the "scarier" scenes in "The Hobbit" will be conceptualized... Yes, of course these are plenty scary scenes, but I have a hunch the movie-magicians will be all too eager to emphasize the horror quotient in these scenes to ( what they will think of as ) "maximum effect" --- I wish they would take a page out of the "old-fashioned" book of movie-making, and ( not leaving the horror and violence out completely ) & do some of the worst violence "off-stage", or at least, with a minimum of blood and gore and gross-ness ( at least, in the case of this particular story, as befits its unique mood and "point-of-view"- its own unique character ) --- I'm not suggesting everything be all too overly "sanitized", but there should be ( but there won't be, I am afraid ) some happy medium between being "all prettied up" and being too graphic and too exploitive.... I realize the acceptable "tolerence level" for violence and scariness ( for viewing by children in movies and elsewhere ) has been dropped low and keeps getting lower... When I was under seven years of age, there were things that by today's standards would be considered very mild, which terrified me - Monstro the Whale, in Disney's "Pinnochio", gave me a vivid nightmare - and I remember my own daughter, when she was little, being very anxiously concerned that some animated characters in "The Aristocats" might get run over by a train... Of course, when you're that little, you either whole-heartedly believe without reservation ( or else you want to believe it so ) that everything that is happening up on the screen is real... I guess I'm getting off the subject here - I don't how many folks will even be bringing their youngest ones to see "TH" when it comes out - but even for the seven-years and up crowd, I suspect that the "X-Treme" graphic-scary-violent quotient will up there in the teenage/adult sensibilities range... I might be walking a fine line between judiciousness and hyprocrisy here, though, as I recall one of the aspects of the story I found appealing ( when I read it as a child ovver seven years of age ) was the "uncensored" violence and exciting scary scenes in the book - [ TH ] was obstensibly a children's book, but it was not filled with all the usual built-in "safeguards" meant to protect the child from shock or disturbance - the story was not "all daffodills and rosebuds" ( whatever that means! I sort of just made that up ) - it was not all sweetness and light and innocuous and vapid - it was a real "earthy" story, and exciting, exhilirating - and very "grown-up" ( in its way, for a "children's story" ) --- So where does this leave us at? I'm not sure - seem to have started meandering around in circles again... -
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Post by Andorinha on Aug 3, 2009 9:47:33 GMT -6
Hullo, Ardo!
RE: "I'm not suggesting everything be all too overly 'sanitized', but there should be (but there won't be, I am afraid ) some happy medium between being 'all prettied up' and being too graphic and too exploitive...."
LOL, yeah, as you say, kids today have quite a different threshold level of the "horrifying." I imagine the movie version Hobbit will be geared more towards the adolescent/ adult community rather than the "kiddies." So, it'll probably have quite realistically portrayed, quite violent, quite icky monsters...
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