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Post by Sparrow on Jul 12, 2004 6:21:48 GMT -6
Define and discuss the following words as used in the story:
1. burglar
2. canny
3. booby
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Post by Sparrow on Jul 12, 2004 6:35:21 GMT -6
Feel free to add other vocabulary words to the list!
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Post by Desi Baggins on Jul 12, 2004 17:08:14 GMT -6
I love the word booby, which unfortunatly can be translated wrong very easily! Here is simply means fool!
Now what I found for burglar: Someone who commits burglary.
Burglary means: the act of breaking into house, shops ect. to steal especially at night.
Steal means: to take (something that is not rightfully belonging to one) withou its owner's consent.
What I would like to know is if you steal something is it now yours? Smaug had stolen the jewels and home of the dwarves, so now are they his or the dwarves? If they are still the dwarves then they gave Bilbo permission to take them so that would not make him a burgler....
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Post by Desi Baggins on Jul 12, 2004 18:58:32 GMT -6
Adventure: 1 a : an undertaking usually involving danger and unknown risks b : the encountering of risks <the spirit of adventure> 2 : an exciting or remarkable experience <an adventure in exotic dining> 3 : an enterprise involving financial risk |
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Post by Stormrider on Jul 4, 2012 7:01:16 GMT -6
Steal means: to take (something that is not rightfully belonging to one) withou its owner's consent.
What I would like to know is if you steal something is it now yours? Smaug had stolen the jewels and home of the dwarves, so now are they his or the dwarves? If they are still the dwarves then they gave Bilbo permission to take them so that would not make him a burgler.... I hate theft! People who work hard to get the things they want and then have someone take them is very disgusting to me. As far as who owns them after they are taken, I feel it is still the one who worked hard for those items. But when you have such an ominous and dangerous thief as Smaug to contend with, the issue of who is the owner can be subject to discussion. Or Smaug must feel there is nothing to be debated and that he is the rightful owner. But I have to give Thorin and the Dwarves a lot of credit to go back and reclaim what is rightfully theirs. It is really an unthinkable task to go against a dragon. |
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Post by Andorinha on Jul 5, 2012 7:12:29 GMT -6
Hmmm, focusing on "booby" here: not certain if this bit of "troll-slang," deprecatory in design, is an anachronism, like the mention of a locomotive train elsewhere in ME lit. A booby, in our own world, is a particularly ungainly, silly looking coastal bird, thought to be extremely dull and lacking in mental achievement. So when William calls Tom a booby, he is using a 19th century school-yard English term that Tolkien's own children would certainly know. But, did they actually have real booby-birds back in Third Age Middle-earth, and did the three trolls ever get to the sea shore to see any of them?
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Post by Stormrider on Jul 5, 2012 15:54:29 GMT -6
Hmmm, focusing on " booby" here: not certain if this bit of "troll-slang," deprecatory in design, is an anachronism, like the mention of a locomotive train elsewhere in ME lit. A booby, in our own world, is a particularly ungainly, silly looking coastal bird, thought to be extremely dull and lacking in mental achievement. So when William calls Tom a booby, he is using a 19th century school-yard English term that Tolkien's own children would certainly know. But, did they actually have real booby-birds back in Third Age Middle-earth, and did the three trolls ever get to the sea shore to see any of them? Would that be the doh-doh bird? (dough-dough) |
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Post by Andorinha on Jul 5, 2012 18:12:25 GMT -6
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Post by Stormrider on Jul 6, 2012 5:49:15 GMT -6
Ha! Both are rather funny looking. I like the Booby though.
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