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Post by Fredeghar Wayfarer on Apr 26, 2008 2:03:59 GMT -6
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Post by Andorinha on Apr 26, 2008 20:45:09 GMT -6
I'm not familiar with del Toro's body of work, having seen only his P.L., which I like a great deal. Apparently, for some Tolkien readers on another forum, they fear he will not be able to bring the "light" and up-beat flavour of the book Hobbit to the screen. Beats me. I'm surprised they did not go after one of the Harry Potter directors after the "Great Troubles" made P.J. unavailable/ unacceptable to the "owners."
Choosing del Toro may mean they are planning on LOTS of special effects, including Computer Generated characters?
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Post by Fredeghar Wayfarer on Apr 27, 2008 21:13:28 GMT -6
To be honest, his body of work is fairly small. Or at least the portion of it American audiences have been exposed to. He directed a number of films in Mexico but I have not seen them. Since then, he's directed Blade II, Hellboy, and Pan's Labyrinth, all of which are quite entertaining and full of innovative fantasy/horror touches which have made me a fan.
I can understand the concern from other Tolkien readers. del Toro's movies do tend to be on the dark and creepy side. That will be great for the goblins, the trolls, Gollum, and so forth but it will be interesting to see how he handles the lighter moments.
We'll see. He handled the lighter, funnier moments in Hellboy well. I think he can strike a balance.
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Post by Stormrider on Apr 28, 2008 5:21:45 GMT -6
I would hope Del Toro has seen the LOTR films (if not for his own entertainment) at least in preparation for The Hobbit movie. I hope he is a fan of Tolkien's works as PJ is. Having a love for the story would help in creating it the way it should be.
There are some very dark parts to The Hobbit as well as lighter moments. I haven't seen Hellboy or Pan's Labyrinthso I have no idea what his talents are. Looks like I should visit the video store and see.
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Post by Fredeghar Wayfarer on Apr 28, 2008 17:44:35 GMT -6
I would hope Del Toro has seen the LOTR films (if not for his own entertainment) at least in preparation for The Hobbit movie. I hope he is a fan of Tolkien's works as PJ is. Having a love for the story would help in creating it the way it should be. I believe I read that del Toro is a huge fan of The Hobbit but found LOTR to be a difficult read (they are very different in style, I suppose). However, he loved the movies and he and Jackson seem to have great respect for each others' work. |
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Post by Desi Baggins on Apr 30, 2008 6:27:32 GMT -6
Remember PJ was know for doing some gruesome movies and he loved blood and gore. So I don't think it is a problem having G del Toro who is know for some dark movies. I have not seen any of his movies though, they aren't the kind that interest me.
I really hope there aren't many computer generated characters. I really hope the dwarves are actual actors! Otherwise I would just as well watch the Hobbit cartoon!
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Post by Stormrider on May 1, 2008 5:49:16 GMT -6
Zauber sent me this link abour Sir Ian McKellen: news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7375245.stmDo I dare take off the "Let The Hobbit Happen" banner on the forum! It looks like things are starting to roll now! I have always wanted to see Pan's Labyrinth but just haven't gotten around to getting it. I will make sure I set some time aside and rent it. I haven't heard a lot about Hellboy though. I will check it out, too. I wonder who will play Bilbo and the Dwarves? I don't think they would computer generate the Dwarves other that shrinking them down--or would it be reversed--enlargening Gandalf! I think the Eagles and Wargs might be computer generated or at least large puppets made for them. Smaug would probably be a combinatin of computer and puppet, too. I can't wait to see Smaug and who's voice will be his? |
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Post by Andorinha on May 1, 2008 13:24:23 GMT -6
Glad to hear Ian is going to be back as Gandalf!
Hmm, yeah, I do not want too much "animation" style CGI stuff either, the Dragon in Dragon Heart was convincingly done, so maybe they can work Smaug up well, but whose voice? LOL, I really like Richard Boone's deep and gravelly voice in the animated Hobbit, but he may be dead by now...
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Post by Stormrider on May 1, 2008 17:17:25 GMT -6
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Post by Fredeghar Wayfarer on May 2, 2008 19:04:06 GMT -6
I haven't heard a lot about Hellboy though. I will check it out, too. Not sure if you like superhero movies but if so, Hellboy is one of the best. The movie and comic series are a blend of adventure, fantasy/folklore, and horror elements, centered on a demon with a human soul. Lots of fun. Hellboy II comes out this summer and seems to be delving into the folklore side a lot more. The trailer has a group of eerie, blonde elf-like characters that reminded me of Haldir from LOTR. So we may be seeing Jackson's influence on del Toro already! As for Smaug's voice, I wouldn't be surprised if del Toro cast Ron Perlman (Hellboy) as they've worked together often and he has a deep, gravelly voice. Keith David (of Gargoyles, Armageddon, and the U.S. Army ads, among other things) might be an interesting choice too. Always my go-to guy for deep, booming voiceovers.  |
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Post by Stormrider on May 3, 2008 6:16:53 GMT -6
According to iMDB, Andy Serikis is rumored to play Gollum. It also says Ian McKellen is "rumored" to play Gandalf, although the link from Zauber confirmed it?!
As you can see, I didn't take off the "Let the Hobbit Happen" banner but modified it!
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Post by Andorinha on May 3, 2008 11:52:03 GMT -6
LOL! Kool, Stormrider!
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Post by Stormrider on May 5, 2008 6:08:04 GMT -6
Here are some more links regarding The Hobbit Movie: |
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Post by Desi Baggins on May 6, 2008 8:41:35 GMT -6
It kills me to have to wait so many more years to see this!
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Post by Stormrider on May 20, 2008 6:16:38 GMT -6
from IMDb:
Cast (Credited cast)
Ian McKellen ... Gandalf (rumored)
Andy Serkis ... Gollum (rumored)
Art Department - John Howe .... conceptual designer
I wonder if the following people have been contacted by del Toro or PJ yet because here is what I see going on for them right now:
Hugo Weaving is in production on:
The Wolf Man (2009) (filming) .... Det. Aberline
Cate Blanchett is listed as doing these:
As Bees in Honey Drown (2009) (announced) (rumored)
North of Cheyenne (2009) (announced) (rumored)
The Dangerous Husband (2009) (announced) (rumored)
The Fantastic Mr. Fox (2009) (filming) (voice) .... Mrs. Fox
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (2008) (post-production) .... Daisy
Ian Holm will be working on:
This Side of the Looking Glass (2009) (announced) .... Charlie
Christopher Lee has this list under his name:
Cowboys for Christ (2008) (in production) .... Sir Lachlan Morrison
The Vij (2009) (pre-production) (rumored) .... The Father
Triage (2009) (filming) .... Joaquín Morales
Orlando Bloom is shown as doing these. You never know, Legolas could be in Thoranduil's hide out somewhere.
The Red Circle (2009) (pre-production) (rumored) .... Corey
New York, I Love You (2008) (filming) .... David
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