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Post by Ardo Whortleberry on Jun 18, 2009 20:42:22 GMT -6
Andorinha, Stormrider, Greetings! ~~~
Ditto on enjoying the bag-pipe music, but still not being able to enjoy the "Street-Rap", ( or whatever you wish to call it ) - Call me chauvinistic and narrow-minded, but I just can't get "into" that stuff...
I wanted to mention that in that episode of "History Detectives", it was also explained that the person who presented these old "master-discs" for investigation was hopeful that they might contain the works of some early Blues masters -- It was explained that there was this recording studio "way up north" in Wisconsin, and at a time when segegation was the norm throughout the country, some of the great African-American Blues musicians and singers ( such as Bessie Smith ) still made the trip up to this town where the studio was located ( and where the factory that produced these master-discs was located as well, perhaps ) -- There was an interview with the woman whose father directed the recording sessions --
It was the introduction of a new technology, using magnetic tape to record the music and then making the records from the tapes, that revolutionized the industry and ended the need for those kind of studio/factories ( where the music had to be recorded live and directly to make these "master-discs" ) which is how the factory went out of business and closed down, which led to all those old ( and now never to be seen again ) "master-discs" getting dumped or otherwise destroyed ( some were melted down, I think )...
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Post by Stormrider on Jun 19, 2009 6:44:13 GMT -6
It is a shame to have lost those masters. Modern technology has always caused employees to get laid off because they aren't needed any longer. It is hard to lose your job and I can see how they would be angry. But that still does not condone destroying property.
I was looking for an email address to contact The History Channel and didn't see one on their website. I wanted to write to them and suggest a show on making music recordings thru the ages. You know how Mike from Dirty Jobs is always looking for ideas for his show, well, I thought The History Channel would have contact info. Maybe the Discovery Channel does!
I don't particularly care for rap but I have to admit I do like Eminem and his Slim Shady stuff. His rap style has more music and tempo to it. Although I could be wrong on that but I just remember the other Rappers pointing and poking their finger at the audience as if they were lecturing you or something. I believe they are all adding more sound to their "Rap" now because I have heard some on Desi's iPod and it sounds more muscial now.
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Post by Stormrider on Jun 19, 2009 7:21:26 GMT -6
How Its Made is from the Discovery Channel and in Season One they had this episode:
Episode 2 Discover the processes involved in the manufacture of compact discs, mozzarella cheese, pantyhose, and fluorescent tubes.
However, that just covers CDs and not the old vinyl disks. Anyway, I signed up at Discovery Channel and posted this idea on their New Show Ideas forum:
"I am interested in learning how the old vinyl record albums were made. I suggest a show on how the music industry has changed over the century and how recordings have changed throughout that time."
I hope they see it!
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Post by Andorinha on Jun 20, 2009 20:27:39 GMT -6
Got into "Celtic Twilight" CDs, great lullaby effect for insomniacs...
Ah, saw the one on mozzarella cheese!
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Post by Stormrider on Jun 22, 2009 6:07:13 GMT -6
I found a 2 disc CD set with Celtic music on it in my collection that I had forgotten about. I was listening to it this week. It has a lot of twangy sounds to it, sort of like bagpipes, and some of it is light and soothing. It was ok -- nothing to really rant and rave about. But I did like two of the pieces. I don't know the names since this was recorded by someone and given to me and they didn't label it. One piece was a lively solo flute piece. The other was from another CD I had that I liked but can't find now--The Book of Secrets by Loreena McKennitt--it was titled "Mummers' Dance". It was a really pretty CD and I am disappointed that I lost it. There were a lot of soothing and exotic sounds on this CD. I am going to have to go buy one again. I just went to Amazon.com www.amazon.com/Book-Secrets-Loreena-McKennitt/dp/B000J233SK/ref=ntt_mus_ep_dpi_lnk and clicked on the CD and was listening to short samples from it which brought back some good memories. I am going to check out the samples from some of her other CD's, too.
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Post by Ardo Whortleberry on Jun 24, 2009 20:32:16 GMT -6
My computer at home is still not functioning, and I haven't been able to get to the library often enough lately ( this has been a bad time in general, the last few weeks - my wife's mom just died one week ago, after having spent a year and a half being laid up in the nursing home ) -- I'd love to get back in on this conversation - the next time I have more time on a library computer, I want to make some more comments - For now, I'll just quickly mention - if anyone wants to get the full and complete story on that segment from the "History Detectives" ( I'm not sure how many mistakes I may have made in reporting it second-hand ) you could go the PBS.org site and possibly find the whole scoop there...
the term"Celtic Music" music covers a lot of different kinds of music and musical styles...
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Post by Andorinha on Jun 25, 2009 1:25:45 GMT -6
RE Ardo's: " the term"Celtic Music" music covers a lot of different kinds of music and musical styles..."
ABSOLUTELY!!! Celtic -- anything from Lawrence Welk "Celtic Polkas" to Heavy Metal Brian Boru... Caribbean Calypso Celtic?
Just saw a PBS special on Music, seems no one is sure how far back our abilities to define/ recognize/ participate in and enjoy music may go; nor how much music depends on the evolution of language, or even if music enjoyment actually pre-dates language capacity. Also big questions on how much music appreciation depends on fundamental universals of sound, or how much is simply culturally learned. Apparently infants in the womb can still hear outside "musics" quite well, may be "culturally" indoctrinated/ familiarized with certain music types pre-birth.
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Post by Stormrider on Jun 25, 2009 6:17:37 GMT -6
Ardo: I am sorry to hear about your mother-in-law. I will also check out the History Detectives story on PBS sometime this weekend. Regarding Andorinha's comment: No wonder I like classical music! My Father loves classical music so maybe he was listening to it while I was in utero! I remember him going off into his own room (usually the basement) to listen to it. My mom always said he was listening to his squeeky violins! But I love the strings myself so I couldn't figure her out! Well, early man must have used music to communicate before they could speak. Banging sticks and rocks, etc. Maybe as music or to communicate. I will look to see if there is anything on PBS about this show, too. Lawrence Welk did "Celtic Polkas" Heavy Metal Brian Boru... Caribbean Calypso Celtic--sounds interesting--maybe I will check Amazon to see if they have samples of his music. Maybe I will like Celtic more than I realize!
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Post by Ardo Whortleberry on Jun 25, 2009 20:45:35 GMT -6
A Very Good Afternoon/Evening to All ~~~
I too, never knew Lawrence Welk ever did anything "Celtic" == [ except I do retain an early childhood memory of someone on the show doing the "Irish Tenor" bit, and maybe singing some sad song about Old Donegol and the brook running it, ( or something like that )] Could this "Welk-Celtic" possibly have been made in the post-Lawrence years of more recent times? [ I think some members of the big "family" he left he left behind have continued to put out "Lawrence Welk Shows" without the presence of their patriarch ] ===
We've never had cable, so we've never seen the "History Channel" programs [ although there may have been some sharing between the PBS stations and the HC from time to time ] but I know many of these programs wind up in video format ( VHS or DVD ) at the library... Andhorinha - I hope they pick up on your suggestion, too! ---
Even on that program I listen to on NPR { "Thistle & Shamrock" } there has tended to be a variety of "Celtic" musics presented --- Sometimes there is singing in Gaelic, ( with the mournful sounds of whales thrown into the background );sometimes it sounds like a boisterous night at the local Pub; etc, One episode was devoted to comparing and contrasting the Scottish-Irish tradition of music and singing with the American Folk Music/Bluegrass tradition ( with attention paid to the difference that had evolved between the respective traditions as to the lyrics of certain ballads that had been passed down through the generatiions) ...
I missed that PBS program on music, but I'm sure it will be repeated --- When I saw the "promos" for the show, I thought: "How coincidental and appropriate that they should be doing this study study of the same subject which we have been coversing about here"
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Post by Ardo Whortleberry on Jun 25, 2009 20:48:22 GMT -6
I made a lot of goofs this time because I was in a hurry...
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Post by Stormrider on Jun 26, 2009 6:30:58 GMT -6
Ardo:
Dont' worry about your goofs. But do you know you can preview your post before you post it? or after you post it, you can go back and modify any mistakes? That is a great thing about this forum!
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Post by Ardo Whortleberry on Jun 26, 2009 18:11:43 GMT -6
Hello, Stormrider! ( & Everyone ) ~~~
Oh, I knew all about being able to review a post before sending it in - ( I've become rather dependent on the "Spell-Check" feature, whereas I always used to look words up in a dictionary if I was unsure of its spelling ) - and normally, I try to check for boo-boos before I hit the "Post Reply" button, but the problem has been time limits - the maximum amount of time I can get in an individual session at a library is one hour, after which one gets "cut off" - yesterday, I had only half an hour to work with, as well as today ( already down to fifteen minutes ) and it takes all my time to compose the post, leaving me in a bit of a panic when the "cutoff" time approaches, wanting to make sure the post gets submitted in time before all my efforts would come to naught, which makes me feel like I have no time for reviewing and editing before I send a post off...
Thank you for your kind note of sympathy ( concerning my mom-in-law )...
I've managed to amass a very small collection of "Celtic Music" cassette tapes lately - most recently, I picked up these titles at a Big Used Book Sale:
"Celtic Horizons" by Paul Coulter copyright 1996 Shanachie Entertainment Corp. == "Ceolna Gaishla: Gaelic Music & Poetry" "a sixty-minute casette programme devised and written by Derick Thomson" [ Scotsoun - albfhuain, Scotland ]
"Farewell To Ireland" by The Dalriada Brothers Delta Music, L.A. CA
"Speak Up For Old Ireland" by Barley Bree ( a group ) copyright 1987 Sanachie Records Corp.
A few others I will mention next time around......
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Post by Vanye on Jun 29, 2009 14:06:53 GMT -6
That is my favorite CD tho i have all of hers that is the one that i play over and over it is a wonder i have not worn it out!Vanye
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Post by Stormrider on Jun 29, 2009 19:41:49 GMT -6
Vanye:
If you love Book of Secrets like I do, what other CD's of hers would you recommend I get next? Are the others as lovely as that one is?
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Post by Ardo Whortleberry on Jun 29, 2009 20:51:52 GMT -6
Hello Again! ~~~
One more cassette tape to mention: "The Pipes And Drums Of The Royal Scots Dragoon Guards" ( "Amazing Grace" & many other tunes ) [ RCA ] I actually haven't listened to this one yet...
Actually, though, for a few years before this, I already owned a couple of tapes, which I don't know where they is at -- One was called: "Scotland The Brave" ( singing and music by people whose names I can't remember ) and one more, a tape of Folk Songs by some Irish guys - perhaps with a name like "The Rovers" ) ~~~
Returning to that early childhood memory of the Lawrence Welk Show ( & all that ) I have come to remember that the song being sung was actually "How Are Things In Glockamorah?" and also that there was a big backdrop behind the singer, depicting an idyllic scene of Irish hillsides and heather and running brooks and so on... ( which actually makes me wonder - maybe it wasn't the Welk show, after all? -- I don't think they usually had much in the way of set decorations on the Welk show, but they did have some, sometimes - if it wasn't Welk, it could have been "The Andy Williams Show" [ my grandparents liked to watch that show as well ])
I've mentioned before how I never had my own records or tapes when I was young, but I know my friends and acquaintances sure did...
The introduction of the cassette tapes started an entire sort of "underground" system for procuring music - people would record off of record albums or the radio - and then make tapes from tapes, I guess -- sort of an equivelent of the modern-day "downloading" & "file-sharing" ( in a way ) --
There was one guy who ran a very small business, he was a "street-merchant" on Telegraph Avenue ( Berkeley, CA ) and he sold only cassette tapes - ( all second-hand, I think ) It was my understanding that eventually he built up a big business from his humble beginnings and was able to open up a large used-record & tape shop on The Avenue ---
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