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Post by Stormrider on Jun 30, 2009 5:49:42 GMT -6
My daughter has some of my old 45's and a lot of her own and we ran across them the other day. I should take a look and see what good oldies are on those. I mentioned to her that you were trying to describe 45's to the younger generation.
Maybe it was Andy Williams--I don't remember Lawrence Welk as having backdrops on his show either--just the band behind the singers/performers. Your description of this memory reminds me of The Shire scenes from PJ's LOTR movies.
I was at IMDb yesterday to see if they had anything else to add to The Hobbit movie info and was reading some current posts on the forum there. Someone mentioned having something by Loreena McKennitt mixed in with the Howard Shore soundtrack like they did with Enya. But is Howard Shore going to do the music?
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Post by Andorinha on Jun 30, 2009 9:24:29 GMT -6
LOL, Lawrence Welk... The PBS channel in Tucson is geared largely toward the older audiences, retirees, and actually re-runs Welk, I think on a daily basis. I'll check, but I recall the Glockamora song as being in LW's repertory, and I also recall an Irish themed backdrop for it... Never saw Andy Williams show that I can clearly recall, so my memory can't be from there? Did watch Perry Como frequently...
Going through all the Judy Collins tapes and LPs now, and some "Enya." But still looking for my copy of Irish folktunes by the Chieftains, has a lovely flute and pipes rendition of Brian Boru.
Might be interesting to try reading Tolkien's poetic history versions of Tinuviel-Beren, Turin et al while the CDs play appropriate "Bardic" music in the background...
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Post by Ardo Whortleberry on Jun 30, 2009 20:26:51 GMT -6
Hello. Andorinha, Stomrider, & Everyone! ~~~
I inherited my mom's stack of old 45's from her when she passed back in 2001 -- I also retained the old phonograph player that was manufactured specifically for playing 45rpm records only -- I believe that machine stopped working many years ago, but it still bears the weight of many of my early childhood memories -- besides my little "kiddie" records that my mom would play for me on that machine, we also would listen to her own collection of 45's - mostly Nat King Cole stuff, but during the Christmas season, I got to hear all the Christmas records over and over: "Winter Wonderland"; Harry Belafonte and "I Saw Three Ships Come Sailing In" and "I Heard The Bells On Christmas Day" and Nat King Cole's version of "The Christmas Song" of course, among others in this vein...
I never saw the "Lawrence Welk Show" after I was six years old and had moved from my grandparents house until about fifteen years ago or more, when a Bay Area public broadcasting TV station started running re-runs and some of the "newer" episodes -- it's funny, though - my daughter - who was pre-pre-teen at the time, was crazy about the show! I think she may have even called it her "favorite" show ( at the time )! == Of course, now-a-days, she wouldn't be caught dead watching something like that - she became way too "sophisticated" and cynical to enjoy something like that ever again, in the matter of a few short years later on...
Andorinha - I think you may be right about it being Welk's show that "Glockamorrah" was performed on... For some reason it is still in my memory as being that way... The Welk Show generally did not have a lot of scenery, but I think they did have some, occaisonally...
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Post by Andorinha on Jul 1, 2009 9:59:11 GMT -6
Pleasantly surprised to find, after Vanye and Stormrider mentioned her, that I already have some pieces by Loreena McKennitt, "Snow" is my favorite. cut 10 on Celtic Twilight 2, followed closely by "Ancient Pines" on Celtic Twilight 1. Will have to get her separate albums!
Ah, Ardo, we have inherited some of the same 1940s - 50s material, but I've got mine on the older 78 format, Christmas Carols mainly.
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Post by Ardo Whortleberry on Jul 2, 2009 20:44:31 GMT -6
I went through the stack of my mom's old 45's yesterday -- I don't think any of her records were from the 1940's - pretty much the lot of them were from the 1950's - primarily the late 1950's --
I was suprised to find some items that I recall listening to were missing, and that there were also items that I certainly don't remember ever hearing at all ( although it was a long time ago - over 45 years ago, to be be precise ) and also I was reminded of some items that I had forgotten about ---
As just a partial, sketchy list of artists and labels I came across:
One "Royale" Records translucent red vinyl record with Sarah Vaughn singing: "WHEN WE'RE ALONE" & "IT'S YOU OR NO ONE" & "THE ONE I LOVE (Belongs To Somebody Else)" & "DON'T WORRY ABOUT ME"
Some CAPITOL Records: Nat King Cole: "WANDERLUST"/"yOU'LL SEE" "LOOKING BACK"/ "I DON'T WANT TO SEE TOMORROW" "ONE SUN"/"L-O-V-E"
Mercury Records: Patti Page singing "THE DOGGIE IN THE WINDOW" with "BARKS BY JOE AND MAC"
Also some records by Joni James & Peggy Lee --- And one "Salsa" instrumental record- ( on "TICO" Records ) -- By JOE LOCO & HIS QUINTET ---
My mom always said she didn't care very much for any kind of instrumental music, but she was the "Big Sister" in the family to two younger sisters, and one of them might have had an interest in Latin Dance Music - & my mom wound up with the record ---
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Post by Ardo Whortleberry on Jul 2, 2009 20:45:37 GMT -6
P.S. == at the bottom of the box -- three of those little "adapters" I mentioned before!
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Post by Andorinha on Jul 3, 2009 21:04:39 GMT -6
LOL, was going through a box of old records here, found two yellow, two red, and one ancient metal 45 adaptors loose in the bottom. Hmmm, do people collect these adaptors, is the metal one worth more? LOL! Seems the latest 45 I have is a Mommas and Poppas "California Dreaming," 1968 edition, earliest is an unlabeled Hawaiian Luau Music that I know we had as early as 1952. I seem to have switched over to tapes in the late 60s, but still had some LP 33s from as late as 1992. Now CDs exclusively. I wonder if they even sell 45 or 33 record discs at all as "newly pressed" releases. As kids it was fun to use the old box 45 record player, a sort of social situation and rite of passage when you finally grew big-old enough to load it and put the needle on yourself...
Seems the Sony Walkman (etc) and earphones may have ended a good deal of the social aspect of listening to music? Used to be the whole family got together to play the old records on a weekly basis during the 50s, next movement seems each had his/ her own player, own favorite selections and everyone became isolated in their own sonic cloud. Even as teenagers we'd gather at some kid's house to listen to the latest records together, wonder if that happens nowadays?
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Post by Vanye on Jul 6, 2009 12:00:03 GMT -6
Storm: 'The Mask &The Mirrror 'is another one of hers that i play a lot. They had a 90 minute specialon PBS of Loreena Mc Kennit last fall during pledge week & her videos had great atmosphere-hope they will pay it again. Vanye 8^)
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Post by Ardo Whortleberry on Jul 11, 2009 17:59:35 GMT -6
Hello! 'fraid I've been out of commission for about a week now, due to some flu bug --- ( Tuesday last, I walked myself into Emergency with a fever of 103 degrees, and the next day, I went back, because my wife and I both assumed I had some kind of "small seizure" while we were sitting on the couch watching a DVD ["Visions Of Scotland"] Embarrassingly, it turned out I had only "passed out", in the middle of trying to suppress another one of those coughs that were hurting my abdomen something fierce ) --- Sigh - now I only have a minute left on this library computer, so I have to post tghis unfinished letter right now
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Post by Ardo Whortleberry on Jul 13, 2009 18:28:18 GMT -6
I just wanted to add a note - sorry about all those capital letters in my previous posting wherein I was listing the titles of a sampling from my mom's old 45's collection --- I definitely was not not trying to "shout" ( cyber-wise ) but I was trying to transcribe the titles verbatim, as they appeared on the records themselves ---
now I'vw only got a couple of minutes left, again - so I will attempt to come back later ---
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Post by Ardo Whortleberry on Jul 13, 2009 18:41:22 GMT -6
Well - wonderful! It appears I have wound up with another "bonus" 23 minutes coming up on this computer now - ( to complete one hour's worth Internet time allotment ) so I can continue on...
One of the titles I came across in that collection was one done by Tony Bennett - it was the only Tony Bennett in the entire collection, but I was gratified to see it there, because Mr. Bennett has become somewhat of a hero in my eyes --- This man has had a life of creative output -- As he said in his own words: "From an early age, I realized that I wanted to spend my whole life singing and drawing and painting..." And that's exactly what he did do! Plus, I love to him belt out a song - he's got a great voice and puts tremendous feeling into his singing...
Something has been perplexing and puzzling me - I can sort of see it better when it comes to using magnetic tape to capture sounds - but it still fascinates me that by somehow making these grooves in the vinyl record - all the sounds that might be happening at the same time [ that is, the voice (or voices), the different musical instruments ] are all blended together inside of those grooves, and yet you are still able to distinguish the different elements at the same time ( when listening to the recording being played ) ---
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Post by Ardo Whortleberry on Jul 13, 2009 18:52:24 GMT -6
Seems the Sony Walkman (etc) and earphones may have ended a good deal of the social aspect of listening to music? Used to be the whole family got together to play the old records on a weekly basis during the 50s, next movement seems each had his/ her own player, own favorite selections and everyone became isolated in their own sonic cloud. Even as teenagers we'd gather at some kid's house to listen to the latest records together, wonder if that happens nowadays? [quoted from Andhorinha]
I didn't start going to parties until I was 18 years old already yet, but I remember that as being one of the main "social aspects" of sharing music --- the parties I attended always had a "stock" of certain artists and albums ( and particular songs ) that were played for dancing at these gatherings --- ["Tower Of Power"; "Stevie Wonder"; "The Rolling Stones" ( "Sticky Fingers" Album ); "Van Morrison" ( "Moon-Dance" Album ); "Earth, Wind & Fire" ( "Shining Star" Album ) ]
I guess there must still be popular tunes for dancing at all young people's parties even now-a-days, but it does seem like all the new technology is trending towards individuals choosing the particular genres they like best and listening to it by themselves or with only a friend or two...
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Post by Stormrider on Jul 14, 2009 6:07:46 GMT -6
Ardo said: This is why I wanted to see a Modern Marvels, History Channel, or Discovery Channel of the making of musical recordings thru the ages. I think it would be really interesting. Ardo and Fredegar: Well, it seems that mp3 players and iPods are now in use these days. However, my daughter, Desi Baggins, plays hers all the time when we go driving in the car and she sets it for everyone to hear her selections. She gave me one of her boys' mp3 player and I've downloaded some of my own music onto it and I listen to it myself. So far we haven't used it in my car--Desi did give me an adapter--but we will be taking a long trip the end of July to New York so I plan to play it then. I don't have as many tunes on it as Desi has on hers so we can swap players out. The New York trip is with our Equestrian Drill Team. We are going to perform for a miltary base out there in Watertown. We have a whole picnic day planned with all of our teams riding and activities for the kids, etc. Read about it on our website: www.midwestrenegades.com/FortDrum.htm
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Post by Fredeghar Wayfarer on Jul 15, 2009 2:26:46 GMT -6
LOL, I don't think I've participated in this thread yet. That was all Ardo. Our use of the Bilbo avatar must have confused you. I'm not real knowledgeable about music or the genres you've been discussing so I haven't had much to contribute to this thread. I mostly just enjoy classic rock, Irish rock, and musicals (since my folks were big into theatre). I can appreciate jazz, classical, and other styles but I don't really seek them out. Lately I've been getting into really quirky groups like Garfunkel and Oates (a folk rock/comedy duo), Lemon Demon (a "geek rock" band that sings mostly about pop culture), and Me First and the Gimme Gimmes (a band that does punk covers of songs that aren't originally in that genre). I find things that suit my offbeat personality, I suppose. Storm, regarding your mp3/iPod comment-- iPods are a wonderful thing. It's amazing having all of one's music in one place at your fingertips and to be able to set it on Shuffle. Often leads to a bizarre, eclectic mix.
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Post by Stormrider on Jul 15, 2009 5:56:20 GMT -6
Fredegar: Yep...your twin Bilbo avatars confused me...I could have sworn the second one said "Fredegar", but looking back, nope! Maybe this was a sneaky way for me to induce you to post here! You did have some interesting comments, too. I've NEVER heard of these groups. They sound crazy! I bet they are fun to listen to anyway. I wonder if Desi has heard of them...I will have to ask her. Have you heard of Lady GaGa? She wears her really long platinum blonde hair in all kinds of funky knots and styles and either wears wild sunglasses or paints her face. www.ladygaga.com/splash.aspxI love the shuffle feature on the iPods and mp3 players. I get a great mix of my favorites and it makes listening more enjoyable to have all my favorite albums on one player but get to listen to them randomly. Desi loaded her Beatles Anthology CD onto mine and there are some awesome tunes and jamming sessions that I have never heard before...way kewl! Whether or not one has much knowledge of music, everyone loves music of some genre or other and one always knows what they like. Thanks for sharing.
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