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Post by Andorinha on Jan 21, 2011 0:25:27 GMT -6
Wow, finally got in to see this movie. Very grim. I think the book version, though grim compared to "Sorcerer's Stone" #1, and "Chamber of Secrets" #2, gives the reader some points of respite -- but the movie version, for me, was unrelenting. I think the 2nd part of "Deathly Hallows" should at least have a "happy" (sort of) "ending" with a more happy, "good guys" win conclusion. So this dark movie does well represent the darkest episodes of the book.
I guess, the director/ writers felt they had so much material to deal with that they left out all the "rest spots" the novel contains...
I note that Tolkien also used the mechanism of "punctuated relief" in his storyline -- fury of action/ terror, followed by happy little breathing spaces at Tom Bombadil's, Elrond's, Galadriel's, Faramir in Ithilien, etc...
Only four couples in the theatre this night, no one under 50. Probably all the kids were there at the beginning of the film's run?
Still liked it a lot, and having had a couple of college history courses on the rise of fascism helped validate her statements, at least for me -- but I would not take any kids under, oh, maybe 12 to see it. Largely "grown-up" stuff, I thought, very thought provoking.
Now I've gotta find something on the upbeat side to read or watch, maybe an old Disney adventure like "Journey to the Center of the Earth," or a John Pertwee "Doctor Who" from 1966?
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Post by Desi Baggins on Jan 26, 2011 7:16:59 GMT -6
It was a dark movie but they really wanted to bring home the danger Harry is in and has been in...We brought our kids 6 and 10 to see it and they did fine...no nightmares...they really liked all the action and the comedy which was there...they liked when Harry, Ron and Harmionie changed into the people to get into the headquarters and Ron's character met with his wife...They liked how Harmionie had everything in her little bag even a tent...which they thought was funny cuz from the outside the tent looked normal but inside it was huge with even stairs! My little one did cry when Dobie died cuz that is his favorite character...
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Post by Andorinha on Jan 26, 2011 9:34:33 GMT -6
Hullo, Desi!
I suppose had we gone earlier in the day we could have see the kiddie reaction to the film, might have learned something about how greatly the generations have changed over time.
Oh, well, I suppose kids today absorb all sorts of cinema shock very easily, sigh, my mind set is sill used to calmer sorts of film,e.g., Mickey Mouse antics. Polly Anna ...
Of course the way the HP books were organized, each succeeding one becoming a bit more "grown-up" than the last, Rowling sort of "grew beyond" the early books with their very young characters and their little understanding of the things of politics. Maybe as real life kids grew up with the books/ movies they gradually got used to the ever-increasing violence, and the fewer "rest stop" scenes?
I'm basically a fossil when I go to movies these day...
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Post by Desi Baggins on Jan 29, 2011 7:16:36 GMT -6
I do think it helped having the movies start out milder and gradually grow darker...
I am sure there are still kids out there that would have been scared...I have just really exposed my kids and have talked to them about how movies are fake and not real and they happen to totally get it...I think I can count on one hand the number of times I have had to go to my kids from having a nightmare...twice for Quenten and none for Colten...
Quenten has always had a fascination with dinosaurs and he was pretty little like 3 year when he saw Jurassic Park (on TV) and he loved it...I was so worried he was gonna be scared and not go to bed or have nightmares...nothing...wanted to watch it again and was so happy to discover we owned it on VHS...
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Post by Andorinha on Jan 29, 2011 17:42:03 GMT -6
Yeah, the first two were more "wonder/ fantasy" than the rest. I think kids growing up along with the movie characters would have no problems, but introducing a 6 year old to "Deathly Hallows" without seeing the others first would be a bit much.
RE Desi's: "I am sure there are still kids out there that would have been scared...I have just really exposed my kids and have talked to them about how movies are fake and not real and they happen to totally get it..."
I do like your attitude and the responsibility it shows. That's great, talking things over before they go out to view the movie, that's the "Parental Guidance" the movie rating suggests. I remember my first scary movie, (no parental input at all) Vincent Price in Thirteen Ghosts, left me afraid of our shadowy basement for months. Just saw a VHS tape of the same old movie, found it utterly boring -- LOL, times change.
Concerning Deathly Hallows, I'll have to ask Maria's grandkids, now 9 and 12, how they felt about it, and if they noticed it was much "grimmer" than the first couple of H.P. films.
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