Post by Stormrider on Jan 15, 2009 20:45:41 GMT -6
From: AnnieLT (Original Message) Sent: 5/1/2003 3:11 PM
The picture was lost--it was entitled "Messenger of Sauron" by Douglas Beekman
Wk7, Bk5, Ch10, DISCUSSION: Gandalf Challenges Sauron's Messenger.
The Lieutenant of Barad-Dur addresses Gandalf, "I have tokens I was bidden to show to thee . . . to thee in especial. If thou shouldst dare to come." To the dismay of the captains the evil emissary shows them a short sword such as Sam had carried, a grey cloak with an elven brooch, and a coat of mithril that Frodo had worn and he offers a bargain. The prisoner will be released if they swear peace with Sauron, Gandalf refuses but snatches the tokens.
Why does Gandalf reject the terms of Sauron if indeed all hope is lost? And why did he stand up to the Messenger and snatch the tokens? Gandalf’s response angers the Messenger. Wouldn’t this put the "prisoner" in more danger?
Why does Pippin assume it is Frodo that is being held in the tower? No name is mentioned and both Gandalf and the Lieutenant refer to only one prisoner. Couldn’t the "spy" just as well be Sam? What are your thoughts on this? And if that hobbit is Frodo, then Sauron must have the ring at this point.
The voice of Sauron surmises that the spy was dear to Gandalf and says, "Or else his errand was one that you did not wish to fail? It has." Why would he think the "spy" was dear to the wizard? Do you think Sauron has learned what the errand is? What information can be gleaned from these words? Do you think the mission has failed? Why or why not?
The picture was lost--it was entitled "Messenger of Sauron" by Douglas Beekman
Wk7, Bk5, Ch10, DISCUSSION: Gandalf Challenges Sauron's Messenger.
The Lieutenant of Barad-Dur addresses Gandalf, "I have tokens I was bidden to show to thee . . . to thee in especial. If thou shouldst dare to come." To the dismay of the captains the evil emissary shows them a short sword such as Sam had carried, a grey cloak with an elven brooch, and a coat of mithril that Frodo had worn and he offers a bargain. The prisoner will be released if they swear peace with Sauron, Gandalf refuses but snatches the tokens.
Why does Gandalf reject the terms of Sauron if indeed all hope is lost? And why did he stand up to the Messenger and snatch the tokens? Gandalf’s response angers the Messenger. Wouldn’t this put the "prisoner" in more danger?
Why does Pippin assume it is Frodo that is being held in the tower? No name is mentioned and both Gandalf and the Lieutenant refer to only one prisoner. Couldn’t the "spy" just as well be Sam? What are your thoughts on this? And if that hobbit is Frodo, then Sauron must have the ring at this point.
The voice of Sauron surmises that the spy was dear to Gandalf and says, "Or else his errand was one that you did not wish to fail? It has." Why would he think the "spy" was dear to the wizard? Do you think Sauron has learned what the errand is? What information can be gleaned from these words? Do you think the mission has failed? Why or why not?